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        Oen:ra1 GIosso:~, tcfu~tcs ~fl)~fl~ ilLtO J~dan bavc bccii LcWi~g Laics c,f c~nVO)~~ of Ci~J1iAJ)
ve~iclcs being s~afecI, people ninaing in Lbe ~cscn and ~ing strafed, boiiibs dropping evcrywticrc.
~jNtn thai trighteneci peopit exa£gcratt~ nontii~Icss, loin. eth~ns niu~t be bij:~pcning. Can you tell us
what you're bitiin£ i'Jong that road, an~ what happ~ns if     Mt fl Jot of L:iviliUl vclilclts in arnongsi
*~b&t look£ like a military &ar£et?
     Olosson: We'~ itn~g only nilliLary iarg~ts. Jiaving nid that, tiie b~i Govc~nn~cnt ii)SiStS
on storing SCUDs in CL~VCrtS and otber things alont lIlt highway. As you saw on fl~e tapc, when we
ftc tho~ type & vthictt£ ~ Wto &bosc Lacilitics1 w~ bC~b ihem. W: rnake ~cry ittiempi ~o
Th1nimi~nnypoisIbU~ty Of dyiliMi casualtics, aiid ibat's tJ)C ksi aJ~swer I can giv~ you.

      ~: ~nc~~1~ alon£ Ibost %aine Unes, sointof Lhc ~tu~ecs ai'd Red Cross ~`orke~s h~vc
brotight bac~ fragnients of bombs identifled as cluster bombs, CflU. Art you using boinb; clustc~
along that bighway. And if' ~, tow £Soyou `tc~nci1e that with your efforts to n~i(liIl~izt civilian
~~:it5 ai~, ~C~dar1yq ~ icfL~ Th~tt.
      Giosson: You saw alonS one of the `hI~wa~i that ~`c just 11)ow~d you 1)~ flIm~, ~nd that
was cluster bombs on those four VCl)iCiCS or SCUD niissiic launchers LI~at wcrc sitti'~ng alon~ Lhnt
hi,ghway ~cs, wc'c us~ ~       sopnIn'on to to~~r a w~er arta wben ti~ TL)IUtAry Iitt'ntI(,n 4iet~e~

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     Schwmkopf: ~I me step in bere. ~c b~v~ b~vti said there won't tc any eivili~n casunlues.
What we have said Is the difference bctweeii us and tlic Iraqis is we art not cicliberately targctin£
civilians   that's il)C dIffcreiice. Tliere arc goiz)g to be casualties -. unfortuiiately, that's what
~~tq'pcn£ wten you have a war. ~ut we are ~riiitinly not delibcratcly t,tr~CLifI£ ci~lians, 4ve never have,
and ~ bavt ~o Intenuon of doing it In ibe futine. Our tnemy c~nainly is, and J hiiipe'hnt's obvious
             an' ~s room ~;r~e you"rt ~tCn i~~r SCUD ~tack.

      9; J wanted to aake y~ bac~ to the pl&nes in Iran. 1-low would you rate the probability tl~at
they inight ~ave gene there fm ~ht~i,utpote of Iaunchin~ ~n nttaek, a~id for cxan~pte. what &i;~d of
StiPPliCSs ammunitions0 that son of thing that they tv~iSht ijave there? And arc ~ou in a good, solid
~~osition to sleal with such ~ probability'.
      Schwatlt~f: ! can't mit a probability. Dut because I cai~not rate a probabi~ity, Yes' ~`e are
in a good, solid position to deal with such a probability.

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         If Saddarn missein wtre to ~ve a t~tfin£ tot~i~n in B~bdad and ~seuis `~u ~ks of
war, te would probably say that we, that is tl?e coalition fo~ces, have tlirowii flit best at him thai
they wuid, ind ~tilltc ts abI~ to launch in offensive. As inucli of a distotiion ~~ thaf iwifty be, lio'v
inoeh, in 7t,tir~wTi tliinkin~, whitis you',tre ~OIng j~to his enetiLal pro~st, Is tl'e polit@c~i (Limension of
this war a factor - ihc fact that it is going oii, that ilie Arab people are lt}okiiig at it, and that you
have a political constraint as well as other constraints, to end (he war?
      Schwarzkopf: This is strictly Norm Scltwarz~oprs OpiniOn fl()W, but it's opinion based on
discussion with a lot of friends throughout the Gulf ar~a, Some of whoni tcnd to be very pro-Sad.
`jamni Hussein *lb date, Sad~Iam Hussein has lied to diem. He's told theni that Tel Aviv was a
crematorium -- we all know that's not true. To date, lie has Lold ilieFiL that lie lias shot down 170
American and coalition aircraft -- everybody knows that's ziut true. lie has ai~nounccd that lie is
going to do all sorts of wonderful things. TIie other day he said a prayer for tlie dead sa)1'ng because
Riyadh was going to be wiped out that night -- diaL did not happeii. He has licci consistently about us
damaging religious places  a lot of pcople ioiow that is not true. So 1 think that one of ihe things
tbat's happened out there is a lot of people wlio were supporters of Saddani hussein, at least those

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